Selfbeskikking – Self-determination

 

2012 – The rights of people to self-determination had been internationally recognised by all the leading powers of the previous and nothing has been changed.   Every people have a right to rule themselves.   It was accepted since 1961, when we have a new page without the British empowerment, that the other constituent peoples of South Africa, should enjoy the same right in the territories that they had always occupied since 1854 under British rules after they annexed all those areas – even the two Boer Republics.

 

Self-determination – Onafhanklikheid

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De Klerk made statements …  are not the truth , because racism, discrimination (B-BBEE) and also segregation is still part of the so-called constitution after 1994.

He said: “I was the one together with the fellow leaders in the (former ruling) National Party who for all practical purposes abolished apartheid on February 2, 1990.

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A great deal of effort and money was invested in the project of developing the 10 national homelands and culminated ultimately in four states and six self-governing territories,”    There are enough evidence those homelands were a success, if you compare them to new countries like South Sudan and Botswana.

Every new development country will have problems, even bigger independent countries like, North and South Korea,  Australia, France,  Germany or Belgium have their own problems.  There is no country in the world that have not problems to sort out to better themselves.

In an interview during 2012, with Christiane Amanpour, De Klerk denied that black people in the former homelands had been disenfranchised. He claimed that they had voted systems in place – and that is the truth.
They all voted for their own leaders.   “They were not put in homelands, the homelands were historically already there, as Reserves or British Crownland.   If only the developed world would put so much money in Africa, as the previous government poured into those homelands. How many universities were built? How many schools? were built since 1954 when Dr Verwoerd took over the British colonial schools in churches.

There is also nothing intrinsically wrong with the idea that the problems of territories that include different peoples should be addressed on the basis of territorial partition. This, after all, is what has happened in such societies all over the world – in the territorial divisions of Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union and, more recently, in Sudan. It is the solution that has long been advocated for Israel/Palestine,” Steward said.

NO REGRET TO GIVE OVER

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The white people, Afrikaners and Boers, English and Afrikaans speakers, are not responsible for the radical revolution, the violence, corruption, separate territories like CPA’s and Trustland today.

We all know,  reserves or british crownland, originated in 1854 under British rule, and it was not us who created it. On the contrary, after all the violence and separate developments of the previous era, there is no other way out, even for other peoples to manage themselves, because the ANC government does not. Why should we not also obtain a homeland as the Zulus have? We are in South Africa for generations, just like the Zulus – which is black – what are they better than us? or visa versa?

If Zulu, Khoi san, Griquas all have separate trustland areas, this is not apartheid, but if we look for our own areas, they are considered apartheid. This is consistent with projections and lies ahead of us which is untrue.

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Full article Donwald Pressly

Former president FW de Klerk, who opened The South African Gold Coin Exchange (Scoin) outlet at Cape Town’s V&A Waterfront last night, was unfazed by the international controversy raging over comments he made on CNN over South Africa’s former homelands.

I don’t want to react to the twisted interpretation of what I have said… what I have said was taken out of context.”

But De Klerk called on people to remember that he had been at the forefront of the process which led to the end of apartheid, when he announced the unbanning of the ANC and the SACP on February 2, 1990.

“I was the one together with the fellow leaders in the (former ruling) National Party who for all practical purposes abolished apartheid on February 2, 1990.

Why would I have nostalgia for what I have abolished and for what I have apologised,” De Klerk said.

Alan Demby, the exchange’s executive chairman said: “We regard Mr De Klerk’s acceptance of our invitation to be guest of honour at the store’s opening as recognition of Scoin’s rapid rise to domestic and international prominence in recent years, as well as our on-going support of the FW de Klerk Foundation.”

Scoin shops offer coin collectors and bullion investors the opportunity to buy bullion, collectable silver and gold coins and medallions – including ones honouring former president Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu and De Klerk himself.

In a CNN interview with Christianne Amanpour, De Klerk denied that black people in the former homelands had been disenfranchised. He claimed that they had voted.

“They were not put in homelands, the homelands were historically there. If only the developed world would put so much money in Africa… as we poured into those homelands. How many universities were built? How many schools?” he asked.

Noting that he had become disenchanted with the homeland vision, he said that at the height of apartheid “the goal was separate but equal, but separate but equal failed”.

His spokesman, Dave Steward, said it should be remembered “that as a young man De Klerk grew up in an Afrikaner society that was still deeply aggrieved by the loss of the right of Afrikaners to self-determination in the Anglo-Boer War”.

Their right to self-determination had been internationally recognised by all the leading powers of that time.

The central theme of Afrikaner politics when De Klerk was growing up was the burning wish of his people to regain their right to rule themselves. There was nothing intrinsically wrong with this wish, Steward said.

“As a young politician De Klerk supported a solution that would ensure that Afrikaners – and the broader white community – would be able to retain their right to rule themselves in the parts of the country that they had traditionally controlled. They accepted that the other constituent peoples of South Africa should enjoy the same right in the territories that they had always occupied. A great deal of effort and money was invested in the project of developing the 10 national homelands and culminated ultimately in four independent states and six self-governing territories,” said Steward, his former director-general, who now manages the FW de Klerk Foundation.

There is also nothing intrinsically wrong with the idea that the problems of territories that include different peoples should be addressed on the basis of territorial partition. This, after all, is what has happened in such societies all over the world – in the territorial divisions of Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union and, more recently, in Sudan. It is the solution that has long been advocated for Israel/Palestine,” Steward said.

Asked how he viewed the current state of the nation yesterday, De Klerk said that if he were to draw up a balance sheet “the positives would outstrip the negatives”.

The country has well balanced macro-economic policies… I am not a pessimist at all. What is wrong… can be put right (if) we all join hands and improve things,” he said.

On the negative side were high unemployment levels, an education system facing crisis and the fact that the country was not achieving the growth rate “we should be achieving”.

https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/economy/de-klerk-brushes-off-criticism-about-homeland-claims-1296576
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Die blanke volk, Afrikaners en Boere, Engels en Afrikaanssprekendes, asook ander groepe, is nie verantwoordelik vir die geweld , aparte gebiede nie, omrede reservate het reeds in 1854 ontstaan en dit was nie ons wat dit geskep het nie.  Inteendeel, na al die geweld en afsonderlike ontwikkelings van die vorige eras, is daar geen ander uitweg, ook vir ander volke om hulself te bestuur , want die ANC regering doen dit nie.  Hoekom mag ons nie ook ‘n vaderland verkry soos wat die Zoeloes het nie?  Ons is in Suid-Afrika vir geslagte, nes die Zoeloes – wat swart is – wat is hulle beter as ons? of visa versa?

As Zoeloes, Khoi san, Griekwas almal aparte Trustgebiede het, is dit nie apartheid nie, maar as ons ons eie gebiede soek, word dit as apartheid beskou.  Dit sluit aan by projeksies en leuens voor ons deur plaas wat onwaar is.
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Dit is ‘n magspeletjie van sekere regeerders, voor en na 1994, wat ‘n eindpunt het van volksvernietiging, veral sedert die Anglo-Boere Oorlog,  Uniewording (1910), wat die Britse ryk en anneksasies sedert 1902 (myne in SA), hierby insluit , saam met die etniese leiers sedert 1854 (Shepstone beleid na Mfecane oorloë), projekteer hierdie leiers, alles wat hulle uitgevoer het op ons en ons nageslagte – haat, vernietiging, rewolusie en diskriminasie, stroop ons Afrikaner en Boere van alle menseregte en menswaardigheid weens die meerderheid in magsposisie, wat wetgewing instel teenoor minderhede om ons te vernietig.

Etniese volke word vol leuens gepomp en ingespan om die vuilwerk te doen en word beloon met Kommunale gebiede, soos Trustgebiede en geregistreerde CPA’s, maar ons Afrikaners en Boere moet die skuld dra daarvoor.

Die projeksies oor sogenaamde apartheid – wat was en wat is, beelde wat was, beelde wat net ‘n ander kleur ontvang het.    Tuislande het oorgegaan van ‘n tuislandgebied na Trustgebied of kommunale gebiede (CPA).  Let wel – kommunale gebiede.   Wie het dit gekies?

Destyds in 1854 was daar nie ‘n Dr Verwoerd nie en nog minder ‘n Boere of Afrikanervolk wat die Mfecane oorloë veroorsaak het.

Onlangs soos in 2012 onderhoude,  word dit weer genoem dat aparte gebiede weg is, maar wat is CPA (grondeise) en Trustgebiede dan anders as wat voor 1994 was, en dan mag ons nie soos die res van Suid-Afrika ook ons eie volwaardige gebiede hê nie, want dis mos nou ‘n sonde en misdaad van die wêreld.

Elke volk het die reg om oor hulself te regeer.  Ons beheer nie die ander volke nie, voor 1994 het hul ook hulself beheer en regeer, hul eie leiers gekies met Tuislande.

Vandag is daar 8840 of meer tradisionele leiers, wat ons onderhou met belasting.   FW de Klerk het die Zoeloe en ander gebiede onderhandel, wetgewing wat Zoeloes en later ander soos Khoi san in staat stel tot eie gebiede met hul eie leiers.

Gedurende 1990 en selfs later toe die land oorhandig is aan kommuniste, terroriste en liberales, was daar geen mandaat om dit te doen nie.

Daar was ‘n artikel op 15 Mei 2012 geplaas wat handel oor die vorige tuislande asook selfregering en onafhanklikheid en kan die vraag opnuut gevra word hoekom daar dan nie aan ons Afrikaner en Boere se versoeke voldoen is nie, maar slegs aan ander etniese volke waar daar 8840 tradisionele leiers in plek is, waarvoor ons moet opdok.   Was dit die hele idee van die ou Nasionale party, hul Broederbond kaders en liberales om ons as volk verewig vas te vang in die sogenaamde projeksies wat opgedis word deur hulself, die media en ook die radikale elemente in die land om ons totaal en al uit te wis.

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ABOUT HOMELANDS AS WELL
Stem uit die Graf

Leaders before 1994 – Vorster, Botha, Treurnicht, Jaap Marais en ET