As “magtiger lande” (soos Rusland en Amerika) betrokke is, en daar word ooreenkomste aangegaan, sonder dat die bewoners wat daar woonagtig is, word gevra, hoe versoenbaar is dit vir een volk om binne ure hul grenslyn met 32 kilometer te verskuif, terwyl die ander land se soldate inbeweeg en grond/dorpies annekseer, eenvoudig net afvat? Geen oorlog of gevegte kom eensydig nie – wie het begin moeilikheid soek. Vir die minerale en olie neerslae – wat is die werklikheid dat die Koerde so geteiken word?
Clashes have erupted daily, with occasional shelling, particularly around Ras al-Ayn, the border town where Kurdish fighters have been encircled by Turkish-led forces.
Wat is ‘n eensydige ooreenkoms hier teenoor ‘n etniese volk wat staatloos is – hulle mag maar onmenslik behandel word, rondgegooi word, want hulle het geen land nie. Terwyl hul ‘n groot land gehad het wat van hul gesteel is.
Indien daar verwagtinge is dat die Koerde aan die een kant, in een provinsie in Syria ‘n groot gebied wat kilometers in hul eie gebiede is, “ontruim”, behoort Turkye wat die ander party is, se bewoners en regering dit dienooreenkomstig met 32 kilometers, uit te voer en dit sal ‘n ooreenkoms realisties maak. Die Turke hoort nie hier nie, hulle het ‘n land van hul eie.
Hoe regverdig is dit en hoe verdedig enige land hul eie grensgebiede wat met 32 verskuif is, soos nou deur die Russe en Turke bewys word. Hoekom word net ‘n eensydige ooreenkoms aangegaan en dit het nie eers die Koerde wat fisies daar bly, hierby ingesluit nie. Daar is net opdragte gee, … binne x aantal uur .. trek .. of .. Die Russe se betrokkenheid word bevraagteken en die Turkse invalle in Sirië erger, want hier is meer daaragter (minerale). Geen wonder die burgerlikes vlug nou voor die Turke nie, omrede hul voorheen onder hul deurgeloop het, en dit nadat die wat hul beskerm het moet terugval en plek maak vir die Turke om die Koerdiese provinsie te beset.
Why the Turkish invaded parts of Syria and abandoned the Kurdish people wherever?
There is ongoing fighting within the “safe zone” along the Turkish and Syrian border in an area that remains a stronghold of the Syrian Democratic Force. Former Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to defeat ISIS Brett McGurk joins Ali Velshi to discuss the developments of the ceasefire in Northern Syria and the Secretary of Defense’s warning about the Syria invasion. Aired on 10/24/19.
Civilians are fleeing northern Syria as Turkish troops advance in Kurdish-controlled areas. The offensive was made possible by the withdrawal of US troops. It has opened a new front in Syria’s eight-year-old war. So, who are the key players in this particular conflict and what are their goals? Let’s begin with Turkey: Ankara wants to establish a so called “safe zone” along its border stretching about 30 kilometers into Syria territory. This area is currently controlled by Kurdish militias. Turkey wants to clear it of Kurds – and then resettle some two million Syrian refugees there who are currently living in Turkey. Then there are the Syrian Kurds. Groups like the Kurdish People’s Protection Units or YPG want autonomy. The latter fought alongside the US AND Turkey against the so-called Islamic State. But Ankara’s offensive could now force Kurdish militias to throw in their lot with the Syrian government and its Russian and Iranian allies. And there is the US. The main goal of the United States and its allies was to defeat Islamist forces in Syria, like ISIS. Washington says ISIS has now been defeated and has started withdrawing its troops from north-eastern Syria, clearing the way for the Turkish offensive.
Kurdish fighters and civilians began evacuating from a besieged Syrian town on 20 October 2019. It was the first pullback under the U.S.-brokered cease-fire deal, opening the way to a broader withdrawal of the Kurdish-led forces from parts of the Turkish border. The evacuation is a boost to a cease-fire that has been shaky since it began on the evening of 24 October.
A local official in Ras al-Ayn told the Associated Press that Kurdish fighters and civilians had begun leaving in convoys and it was unsure if it would be completed by 20 October.
The cease-fire deal only calls for fighters to leave the border area. But Kurdish civilians flee as well because without their protection they fear atrocities by the Turkish-backed Syrian forces. Those fighters, who are Arab and often Islamist extremists, have been accused of killings of Kurdish civilians and captured fighters during this campaign and in other Syrian territory seized in Turkish campaigns since 2017.
A senior official in the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, Redur Khalil, said that after the Ras al-Ayn evacuation, the forces will withdraw from a zone about 120 kilometers (75 miles) wide and 30-kilometers (20 miles) deep between Ras al-Ayn and the town of Tel Abyad further west.
Under the accord, that pullback is supposed to be completed by the evening of 22 October when the cease-fire — or pause in fighting, as Turkey calls it — runs out.
It was said that the Trump administration negotiated the accord after heavy criticism at home and abroad that it had opened the way for the Turkish invasion by abruptly removing its soldiers from northeast Syria . That move abandoned the Kurdish-led force, which had allied with the Americans to fight the bloody, years-long campaign that brought down the Islamic State group‘s rule over nearly a third of Syria.
Both sides accuse each other of repeatedly violating the three-day old cease-fire. Turkey’s Defense Ministry said one of his soldiers was killed Sunday in a Kurdish attack with anti-tank weapons and small arms fire near the border town of Tal Abyad. That brought the Turkish military’s death toll to seven soldiers. But what happen after this.
Question is – the same type of agreement must be for the Turkish people also, not only for the Kurdish/Syria. Why don’t the Turkish not get away 440 kilometers from their border too?
It was stated on 20 October 2019 that Erdogan has said the Kurdish fighters must withdraw from a far larger length of the border — from the Euphrates River to the Iraqi border, more than 440 kilometers (260 miles) — or else the Turkish offensive will resume Tuesday.
U.S. officials say the agreement pertains to the 120-kilometer section. Erdogan’s spokesman, Kalin, confirmed that is the area affected by the pause in fighting, but said Turkey still wants the larger zone.
Reported on 25 October 2019 – there is ongoing fighting within the “safe zone” along the Turkish and Syrian border in an area that remains a stronghold of the Syrian Democratic Force. Former Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to defeat ISIS Brett McGurk joins Ali Velshi to discuss the developments of the ceasefire in Northern Syria and the Secretary of Defense’s warning about the Syria invasion.
The broader Kurdish pullback, if it is carried out, will grant Turkish forces control of the swathe of territory roughly in the middle of the Syrian-Turkish border. The area has been the main theater of fighting during the offensive, causing the flight of tens of thousands of civilians — Arab and Kurd — from the villages that dot the landscape. At least 160,000 civilians have been displaced by the Turkish assault.
A previous agreement between the U.S. and Turkey over a “safe zone” along the Syria-Turkish border foundered over the diverging definitions of the area. Erdogan has said the Kurdish fighters must withdraw from a far larger length of the border — from the Euphrates River to the Iraqi border, more than 440 kilometers (260 miles) — or else the Turkish offensive will resume Tuesday. U.S. officials say the agreement pertains to the 120-kilometer section. Erdogan’s spokesman, Kalin, confirmed that is the area affected by the pause in fighting, but said Turkey still wants the larger zone.
Turkey considers the Kurdish-led fighters as terrorists because of their links to a Kurdish insurgent group inside Turkey. It says any presence of the group along its borders is an existential threat. Turkey also wants to resettle some of the 3.6 million Syrian refugees on its soil in the border “safe zone.”
Another question is what the arrangement will be along the rest of the northeastern border, from the Euphrates River to the Iraqi border, most of which remains solely in the hands of Kurdish-led fighters.
When they were abandoned by U.S. troops, the Kurds turned to Russia and secured an agreement for Syrian government forces to deploy in the northeast last week. So far, the Syrian forces have only moved into one location directly on the border, the town of Kobani, and a few positions further south. Erdogan is to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in the Russian town of Sochi on Tuesday. His spokesman Kalin said he will tell Putin that Ankara does not want either Syrian forces or Kurdish fighters along the border because refugees would not go back to areas under their control.
“We want to create conditions that will be suitable for them to return where they will feel safe.”
Who invaded who’s land here? It is also illegal and violations of human rights to all those that are living there.
As a cease-fire in northern Syria expired Tuesday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The two leaders announced a joint plan to evict Kurdish YPG fighters from northeast Syria — displeasing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, as well as the U.S. Nick Schifrin reports and joins special correspondent Jane Ferguson and Judy Woodruff to discuss.
PREVIOUSLY IN OCTOBER 2019
Without the support of the United States, the Kurds have turned to their old enemy, President Assad of Syria himself. His forces are now moving into towns and villages once held by the Kurds, setting up a potential flashpoint between the Syrians and the Turks, two large, well-equipped armies.
Is this only a one sided agreement – to get rid of the Kurdish people?
During discussions in Sochi, the Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan struck an agreement on the fate of northeast Syria on 17 October 2019 to create a new status quo in the region.
The “Arab Belt” is a term describing the confiscation process by the Syrian government of agricultural lands belonging to Kurds and Aghas (chieftains or village heads who were also landowners) in the province of Hasakah, and the distribution of the lands to Arabs arriving from the provinces of Aleppo and Raqqa to be settled in the Jazira region of north-east Syria, along the length of the border strip with Turkey.
The Kurds and Arab belt
The Kurds are an ancient and noble people who are now the primary “boots on the ground” against ISIS in the Middle East. They are 35 million strong worldwide, the largest people group on earth without their own country.
Statelessness – Violation of Human Rights and international crimes