Zondo Commission – Ngoako Ramatlhodi (spy) – Zuma


Die Zuma oomblikke – Daarvan gaan nog baie gesien word – die een gee die ander die skuld, niks is onmoontlik nie  – Wat het van die bandopnames geword waarin Zuma ook betrokke was?
Are they playing musical chairs, even here like in parliament?   Ramatlhodi has challenged the former president Zuma to a lie detector test.     Former South Africa mineral resources minister was an apartheid spy, ANC’s chief of intelligence in the early 1990s revealed at the Zondo commission.   Ramatlhodi, who Zuma claimed on Monday was an apartheid spy, was one of the stand-out witnesses of the commission so far.

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Ramatlhodi told the judicial commission that the infamous Gupta family would summon ministers and the president to their homes and “boast about it”. Ramatlhodi was the fourth minister who served under former president Jacob Zuma to appear before the Zondo commission.     Ramatlhodi previously told the commission that he was fired by Zuma as mineral resources minister for refusing to do the Gupta’s bidding.

On Monday, Zuma, who is appearing before the state capture commission of inquiry for the first time, named Ramatlhodi as a spy “who was recruited in Lesotho”, drawing gasps from the public gallery.   Zuma twice referred to Ramatlhodi’s own comments to the commission in November last year, when he accused Zuma of having “auctioned” the country to the Gupta family.   Zuma said Ngoako Ramatlhodi was recruited to be a spy.    Zuma alluded to the fact that he knew that Ramatlhodi was an alleged spy for some time, but remained silent on this and worked with him.    When Ramatlhodi came to the commission, he was “acting on instructions” says Zuma.

(Ramatlhodi previously gave evidence at the commission, and said Zuma’s relationship with the Gupta family was toxic.)




Former president Jacob Zuma has rubbished testimony given by former cabinet minister Ngoako Ramatlhodi before the Commission of Inquiry into State Capture.

During his first sitting before the Commission of Inquiry on Monday, Zuma reaffirmed his belief that the protracted investigations into his role within the state capture project were nothing more than a witch hunt orchestrated by subversive political forces.

Zuma pointed to covert international intelligence operations, multiple assassination attempts and fierce factional battles as examples of the methods undertaken to remove him from the public eye. The former president reiterated his innocence, arguing that he had been vilified by biased media agencies and colleagues alike.

One of these colleagues, Ramatlhodi, had appeared before deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo in November 2018. The former mineral resources minister, who held his cabinet position under the Zuma administration, was critical of the former president’s role as head of the state. As part of his testimony, Ramatlhodi alleged that Zuma had ‘auctioned’ South Africa off to the infamous Gupta family.

“What made comrade Ngoako to behave in the way he did here saying that I auctioned the country? He was carrying out an instruction. Ramatlhodi was recruited when he was a student in Lesotho to be a spy.”

Zuma explained that after prolonged antagonising efforts, at the hands of ‘people like’ Ramatlhodi, he had been left no choice but to defend himself and, in so doing, reveal his detractors’ dirty secrets. Pre-empting the question of Ramatlhodi’s appointment as minister, Zuma said:

“I’ve known for many years what he is but I have never shown it because I thought he will change.”

Ramatlhodi immediately hit at controversial Zuma’s testimony. Speaking to Power987, Ramatlhodi said:

“I am ready to under a lie detector with him. We can meet before the commission. The commission can press both of us as to who is telling the truth and who is lying.”

War of words between Jacob Zuma and Ngoako Ramatlhodi



Mr Ramatlhodi was born on 21 August 1955 at Tauyatswala Village in Limpopo.   Adv Ramatlhodi was enrolled for post-matriculation studies at the University of the North from 1977 to 1979.

He is a founder member and first chairperson of the University of the North Arts and Drama Association and was Chairperson of the Central Cultural Committee, which served as the students’ only voice after the banning of the Students’ Representative Council (SRC).

Adv Ramatlhodi was also a founder member of the Azanian Students’ Organisation, later known as South African Students’ Congress and a member of a team, which formed the Congress of South African Students.

He went into exile in Lesotho on 17 July 1980, where he continued with his studies. During this time he was involved in various student activities.

From 1981 to 1983, he was second secretary for the Committee of Action and Solidarity for South African Students.

He was Secretary for Public and Foreign Affairs of the NUL SRC, responsible for liaison with external organisations, issuing statements on behalf of the SRC-coordinating public functions.

He was also a member of the NUL Admissions Committee from 1982 to 1983.

From 1983 to 1984, he was president of the NUL SRC.

He was also a member of the University Council and the highest executive authority of the students’ union and was involved in negotiations with management and other structures of the NUL.

He obtained a Bachelor of Jurisprudence (BJuris) from the National University of Lesotho (NUL) in 1984 and a Bachelor of Law from the NUL in 1986.

From 1986 to 1988, Adv Ramatlhodi was head of the ANC Regional Political and Military Council of the Zimbabwe Mission.

In 1988, he obtained a Master of Science (MSc) in International Relations from the University of Zimbabwe and was admitted to the Bar of Lesotho as an advocate in 1997.

From 1990 to 1992, he was recalled to Zambia to become political secretary and speech writer for the then ANC President Oliver Tambo.

In this capacity, he served as the secretary of the ANC Control Commission, a body responsible for the coordination of the entire liberation movement’s activities and served former President Nelson Mandela in the same capacity.

He returned to South Africa in June 1991 where he was employed by the University of the North as Deputy Registrar, Executive Assistant to the Rector and lecturer in Public International Law from 1992 to 1994.

From May 1994 to 22 April 2004, he was Premier of Limpopo for two full terms.

He was also chairperson of the ANC in Limpopo from December 1991 to 1996.

In 2005, he led the ANC delegations to oversee the election process on the invitation of the Zimbabwe Government. He has been the head of the ANC Elections Committee since 2008.

From 2009 to 2010, he served as the Chairperson of the Portfolio Committee on Justice and Constitutional Development, as well as Chairperson of the ANC cluster on Peace and Stability.

In 2009, he was admitted to the Bar of South Africa and was awarded an Honorary Doctor of Law Degree by the University of Limpopo. He has been a member of the National Executive Committee (NEC) of the African National Congress (ANC) since 1991.

Adv Ramatlhodi was the Director of the ANC Policy Institute from 2004 until 2009. He also served as a member of the Judicial Service Commission from 2010 to date.

Adv Ramatlhodi was Deputy Minister of Correctional Services from 1 November 2010 to 25 May 2014. He was the Minister of Mineral Resources from 26 May 2014 to 22 September 2015 where he was appointed the Minister of Public Service and Administration on 23 September 2015.



Former president Jacob Zuma has started to spill the beans and told the state capture commission that former public service and administration minister Ngoako Ramatlhodi was a spy.


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