Fire arms lost (given away?) – SAPS officials

Any firearm that has been stolen is and remains an illegal firearm that commits illegal acts and murders.  Such a person is already a criminal and terrorist, who does not have a competency certificate to use it.   Enige vuurwapen wat gesteel word is en bly ‘n onwettige vuurwapen waarmee onwettige dade en moorde gepleeg word.  So ‘n persoon is reeds ‘n krimineel (terroris) het geen bevoegdheid sertifikaat om dit te gebruik nie.

How can a firearm of an official just be missing and what happened to those officials – were those missing by “accident” or else?   If a citizen lost his/her firearm what happen to the citizen thereafter and with their licenses ?   And who pay for those “lost” firearms of the SAPS officials?   TAX money and insurances?

More than 500 firearms were reported lost from the South African Police Services in the 2018/2019 financial year.   Police Minister Bheki Cele has revealed this in a written reply to a Parliamentary question from the Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Groenewald.

Of the 505 police firearms which have been reported lost, Kwazulu Natal tops the list with 142 firearms missing. This is followed by Gauteng which stands at 101 lost police guns.   The Police Head Office in Pretoria has the third-highest number of lost firearms standing at 65.

It is followed by the Eastern Cape with 49 and the Western Cape is at 39 lost firearms.   Limpopo has reported 28 lost guns, the Free State lost 19 and North West stands at 18.  The province with the lowest reported lost police fire-arms in the Northern Cape standing at six.

The 505 firearm lost from SAPS in the 2018/2019 financial year reflects a decrease of 280 less lost guns when compared to the 2017/2018 financial year where 785 lost firearms were reported.

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10 August 2018

More than 500 firearms were reported lost from the South African Police Services in the 2018/2019 financial year. Police Minister, Bheki Cele has revealed this in a written reply to a Parliamentary question from the Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Groenewald. Joining us on the line is Police Ministry spokesperson Lirandzu Themba.

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Fire arm theft in South Africa – WHERE DID THOSE AMMUNITION GO?

More than 500 firearms were reported lost from the South African Police Services in the 2018/2019 financial year. This has thrown sharp focus on firearm theft and illegal gun circulation in the country.

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9 AUGUST 2019 – The South African Police Service (SAPS) has ‘lost’ more than 9,5 million rounds of ammunition over the last six financial years.   The Freedom Front Plus reports that during the same period, 4 357 firearms were also ‘lost’.   These shocking figures were revealed in an answer provided by Police Minister Bheki Cele in response to an official parliamentary question posed by FF Plus leader, Dr Pieter Groenewald.

The greatest quantity of ammunition that went missing in a single year was in the Eastern Cape where 3.2 million (3 231 406) rounds of ammunition went missing in the 2016/17 financial year.   Dr Groenewald said these figures are shocking and totally unacceptable, and in the case of another province in North West,  incomprehensible that more than 3 million rounds of ammunition can go missing during a single year and nobody seems to know how it happened.

He said the FF Plus will request the chairperson of the Portfolio Committee for Police to urgently discuss this matter in the Committee and that the relevant people must be held accountable.

https://www.algoafm.co.za/article/domestic/101551/ff-plus-asks-where-did-all-the-missing-guns-and-ammo-go-

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The South African Police Service (SAPS) has ‘lost’ more than 9,5 million (9 555 426) rounds of ammunition over the last six financial years. During the same period, 4 357 firearms were also lost. These shocking figures were revealed in an answer provided by the Minister of Police, Bheki Cele, in response to an official parliamentary question posed by Dr Pieter Groenewald, leader of the FF Plus.

The question to the Minister was what number of firearms and how much ammunition in possession of the police were reported lost or stolen in each province respectively.   The greatest quantity of ammunition that went missing in a single year was in the Eastern Cape where 3,2 million (3 231 406) rounds of ammunition went missing in 2016/2017.

In the North West, 2,2 million (2 247 126) rounds of ammunition went missing during the 2014/2015 financial year according to the Minister’s answer. Last year, the North West province lost nearly half a million (433 908) rounds of ammunition, that is the greatest quantity of all the provinces.   These figures are shocking and totally unacceptable, particularly as regards the loss of ammunition. It is incomprehensible that more than 3 million rounds of ammunition can go missing in a province during a single year and nobody knows how it happened.

No wonder violent crime is out of control. The police service seems to be the biggest provider of illegal ammunition.   President Cyril Ramaphosa and the Minister both regularly make statements about the need for stricter control of firearms. Minister Cele himself said that the government wants to impose stricter conditions for the possession of firearms for self-defence in an attempt to reduce violent crime, especially murders.

It, however, does not help to blame the legal owners of private firearms for crimes that are committed with firearms. The Minister’s Department should get the blame. A firearm without ammunition is useless. The measures that the Minister provides as remedial steps in his response are no more than the standard rules and procedures, but clearly these are not being properly enforced.

The FF Plus will request the chairperson of the Portfolio Committee for Police to urgently discuss this matter in the Committee and the relevant people must be held accountable.   The FF Plus insists that heads must roll seeing as this amounts to gross misconduct against the people of South Africa.

Read the original article in Afrikaans by Dr Pieter Groenewald on FF Plus

South Africa Today – South Africa News

Police have lost 4 357 firearms and 9,5 million rounds of ammunition

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Opinie

Het die Polisiemag ooit die regte opleiding en kry hul die regte blootstelling met al die terrerisme en geweld in Suid-Afrika?   Duidelik is Polisie beamptes ook bang of “versigtig” om hul vuurwapens te gebruik na die sage van Marikana, wat onregverdig is.  Wanneer iemand ‘n klip optel en ‘n polisiebeampte gooi, moet daardie beampte hom/haarself kan beskerm, want indien die beampte teen die kop getref word, is dit te laat om te huil by ‘n oop graf.

Net soos wat enige boer, blanke, indier of enige ander kultuur die reg het om hulself te verdedig, in huis, plaas of besigheid, het die SAPS beamptes ook die reg. 

Indien dit ons nie gegun word nie, hoekom het Ministers, Malema en President dan soveel gewapende lyfwagte wat hulle beskerm?  Of is hulle bang?   Die wat dink is onnodig – gaan lees die liberaal kommunistiese grondwet wat daarin staan.  Dit is ‘n mensereg.

Indien ‘n burger ‘n vuurwapen wil aankoop om te gebruik, is daar vereistes volgens verskillende wetgewings wat nagekom moet word.   Waar is die kriminele wat vuurwapen steel se bevoegdheidsertifikate, kluise en ander vereistes wat nie nagekom word nie.  Hulle word gevang en dan gaan hul met gerief tronk toe, het stemreg en het verskillende byvoordele.

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Have the Police Force ever been properly trained and given the right exposure with all the different kind of violences in South Africa. Clearly, Police officers are also afraid of using their firearms after the Marikana saga, which is unfair to officers and their families.

When someone picks up a stone and throws a police officer, that officer must be able to protect him / her, because if the officer is hit, it is too late to cry at an open grave.

Just as any Farmer, Caucasian, Indian or any other culture has the right to defend themselves, in house, farm or business, so do SAPS officials have that same rights.

If this is not given to us, then why do Ministers, Malema and President have so many armed bodyguards protecting them? Those who think are unnecessary – go read the liberal communist constitution that stated it.   Is a human right.

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Illegal firearms – South Africa KZN 14/8/2019

South African Police Services – reports

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  1. […] Any firearm that has been stolen is and remains an illegal firearm that commits illegal acts and murders.  Such a person is already a criminal and terrorist, who does not have a competency certificate to use it.   Enige vuurwapen wat gesteel word is en bly ‘n onwettige vuurwapen waarmee onwettige dade en moorde gepleeg word.  So ‘n persoon is reeds ‘n krimineel (terroris) het geen bevoegdheid sertifikaat om dit te gebruik nie. Fire arms lost (given away?) – SAPS officials […]

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  2. […] Any firearm that has been stolen is and remains an illegal firearm that commits illegal acts and murders.  Such a person is already a criminal and terrorist, who does not have a competency certificate to use it.   Enige vuurwapen wat gesteel word is en bly ‘n onwettige vuurwapen waarmee onwettige dade en moorde gepleeg word.  So ‘n persoon is reeds ‘n krimineel (terroris) het geen bevoegdheid sertifikaat om dit te gebruik nie. Fire arms lost (given away?) – SAPS officials […]

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