Russe en SA verkiesing 2019

AMBASSADOR GIPS MEETS WITH ATHOL TROLLIP, PARLIAMENTARY LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC ALLIANCE

Lees gerus hierdie inligting deur – dis wat beweer word op twitter en daar is groot dokumentasie hieroor en daar is heelwat ander ook wat hieroor gaan en wie glo hiervoor verantwoordelik was – praat van chaos – ons in SA en die sogenaamde vals reënboognasie is nie verniet geskep as “vals flag” en fronte nie – soos heelwat berigte al geskryf, het tuislande nie ophou bestaan in 1994 nie, maar al hierdie tradisionele leiers treek voordeel, die elites wat tenders kry trek vooreel en die wat so baat by swart bemagtiging trek voordeel, net om ons blankes hier uit te wis.   Rusland is deel van Brics.  Al Zuma en ander hooggeplaaste besoeke aan Rusland.   In ruil vir?


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(d). 1. (C) Summary. On February 12, Ambassador Gips met with Athol Trollip, Parliamentary leader of the Democratic Alliance (DA), the main opposition party in Parliament, to discuss USG programs and cooperation. Also in attendance were Political Counselor, Cape Town CG, and Cape Town Poloff. Trollip described the U.S. as the most important country in the world, but noted that China is rapidly becoming another super power. He also noted that he would like to improve relations between the USG and the DA, which is also the ruling party in the Western Cape Province. Trollip also discussed the ANC, Zuma, and the recent State of the Nation address as well as the DA,s plan to win two more municipalities in next year,s election. Throughout the course of the meeting, Trollip stressed the desire for the DA to meet with its U.S. counterparts as well as with U.S. companies, which Ambassador Gips was happy to help facilitate. End summary. 2. (C ) On February 12, Ambassador Gips met with Athol Trollip, Parliamentary leader of the Democratic Alliance to discuss USG programs and cooperation. Trollip began the meeting by saying the U.S is the most important country in the world, although he noted that China is rapidly becoming the other world super power. Trollip noted his concern that the USG and the GOC both have good relations with the SAG, but noted that neither had good relations with the Western Cape leadership. He said he looks forward to building those relations and wants to have a formal engagement with the USG. He noted his dissatisfaction with the Chinese who work with the ANC on a party-to-party basis, not through the government. He asked Ambassador Gips how the DA can work more closely with the USG, specifically mentioning that the DA would benefit from training and exchanges with U.S. legislators, noting that he personally would like to meet with someone from the Democratic Party. 3. (C) Trollip noted that the DA is a party for all people and said there is no other party with as much ethnic diversity in its caucus as the DA. In the April 09 election, Trollip said &COPE (the second largest opposition party) took the 6.5 percent of the vote that the DA was expecting to receive due to racial identity problems.8 ( Comment. COPE is a breakaway party from the ANC and has a largely black membership, whereas the DA,s electoral base is mostly from the white and mixed race communities. End comment.) He argued that Africans often feel obliged to vote for the ANC because of the ANC,s role in the liberation movement. 4. (C ) Trollip noted his dissatisfaction that President Zuma refuses to reign in the head of the ANC Youth League, Julius Malema. Trollip said he likes both Ministers in the Presidency, Trevor Manuel and Collins Chabane, and thinks their new Planning Commission and Monitoring and Evaluation portfolios are a good idea, and hopes that the Ministers will be able to roll out their plans soon. Trollip also hopes Chabane,s plan will work and that Zuma will back him. Trollip also said that he believes Manuel, who is the best mind in the ANC, is not happy in the party and noted that the current leader of the DA, Helen Zille, would give Manuel the DA party leadership if Manuel were to jump ship. 5. (C) Trollip also said, &if Zuma is dumb enough not to realize that his State of the Nation Address said nothing, either the ANC is setting him up or he has poor advisors.8 Qeither the ANC is setting him up or he has poor advisors.8 Trollip also said that he spoke to Kader Asmal (a former ANC Minister under Mandela) after the State of the Nation Address, and Asmal said the mood in Parliament was very subdued and noted this was the first time in fifteen years that the gallery did not erupt into singing or dancing upon the entrance of the President. Trollip also said that he met with Reverend Dandala, the leader of COPE, after Zuma presented the State of the Nation address and that COPE intended to present a Motion of No Confidence against Zuma due to his personal behavior, focusing on the fact that Zuma recently fathered another illegitimate child. Trollip noted that Dandala approached the DA to support the Motion and that the DA agreed, noting that if the DA had brought the Motion, it would be considered racist. 6. (U) Trollip told Emboffs that the DA will not attack the President directly and will not mention the recent scandals in his personal life, but will attack him on the basis of what was included (or more appropriately not included) in the State of the Nation address. Trollip noted that because the DA only has 17 percent of the seats in Parliament, it needs to be focused all the time. The DA wants to focus on opportunity issues such as pot holes and faulty traffic lights*issues that can be more readily solved. 7. (SBU) Trollip said that the DA hopes to win two more metropolitan areas in the upcoming local elections, Port Elizabeth and Tshwane (which includes Pretoria). He thought such a goal was achievable, particularly if the DA worked CAPE TOWN 00000039 002 OF 002 with COPE to put together coalitions. He noted that the worst run municipality in the Eastern Cape is the one with the largest ANC majority. He believes the DA will continue to do well in the Western Cape. 8. (U) Trollip described the DA,s young leadership program which gives two groups of 20 young people a full year of classes. He said that he would like to talk to someone in the Democratic Party about what they do to train their young democrats. Trollip noted that he participated in two National Council of State Legislator programs in the U.S. and greatly benefitted from them. Trollip said that the DA,s senior party caucus wants to go to the U.S to meet with senior U.S. leaders and U.S. businesses that are interested in investing in South Africa, but noted that the DA cannot afford to pay for the trip on their own and is seeking funding from outside sources. He also noted that he would like to meet with American Chamber of Commerce representatives in South Africa and the US-SA Business Council, which is managed by Corporate Council on Africa. Furthermore, he said that is happy to meet visiting Congressional delegations to South Africa. He also noted that, &it is fundamentally important for President Obama to succeed.8 MAYBERRY

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PRETORIA 00003670 001.2 OF 002 Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Catherine Kay. Reasons 1.4(b ) and (d). 1. (C) SUMMARY. Paul Boughey, Chief of Staff in the Office of the Leader of the Opposition, described to PolOffs on 26 September the Democratic Alliance’s (DA) goals leading up to South Africa’s national parliamentary elections in 2009: counter the party’s whites-only image, modernize party structures, and win control of the Western Cape. While Boughey has no illusions that the DA could overtake the ANC in 2009, he and his party, under the leadership of Helen Zille, appear to be preparing for what they believe will be the eventual end of the ANC’s overwhelming dominance. END SUMMARY. ———————————- COUNTERING THEIR WHITES-ONLY IMAGE ———————————- 2. (C) On 26 September, Paul Boughey, Chief of Staff in the Office of the Leader of the Opposition, talked to PolOffs about the DA’s strategy over the next 18 months to strengthen their position going into the country’s national parliamentary elections in 2009. Boughey admitted that the DA’s biggest challenge is transforming its image as a “whites-only party,” despite the fact that Boughey says most of their ground support is actually coloured. According to Boughey, the DA received 2.5 percent of the black vote in the 2004 parliamentary elections. While not significant, Boughey argued that if they could double that figure, they would gain four or five extra seats in the 400-seat National Assembly. In order to attract black voters, the DA intends to capitalize on disillusionment among blacks and youth by telling them that “the ANC only cares about a few black people, whereas we care about everyone and their issues.” The DA is also committed to placing more blacks into leadership positions. Even Boughey admitted that today, blacks hold only a handful of DA leadership positions and as party of their image makeover, they know they will need more black leaders. 3. (C) The DA has done its homework and feels it has “great potential” in Limpopo, northeast KwaZulu-Natal, and Gauteng. Though Boughey refused to elaborate on details, he said their research has shown that in these areas, the ANC is the majority’s first choice and the DA comes in second “if conditions were right.” The DA hopes to capitalize on this second-best rating by attracting not only new black voters but halting Indians from their continual slide away from the DA, according to Boughey. ————————— BUILDING PARTY INSTITUTIONS ————————— 4. (C) The DA is also planning on setting up “genuine, modern party structures.” Boughey said they would focus in on those geographic areas with the most potential for growth since their funding is limited. Boughey intimated that their current political architecture is unevenly developed, funded, and active. They are also in the process of developing a “leadership academy” for younger leaders, especially blacks aged 18-35 years old. ————————— WIN CONTROL OF WESTERN CAPE ————————— 5. (C) The DA is also intent on winning control of the Western Cape province in 2009, which Boughey believes is a strong possibility. Boughey said the DA won 45 percent of the vote in the 2006 municipal elections. Building on their experience governing Cape Town municipality through a multi-party coalition, Boughey said the DA will also govern the province through a coalition if they have to, but prefer to win outright. If they had to build a coalition, they would choose to work with the Independent Democrats, the United Democratic Movement, or the Pan African Congress. Boughey said without irony they have no interest in working with “stupid parties like the Freedom Front Plus, which should be eliminated since they only take our potential members away.” (NOTE: The Freedom Front Plus is a conservative party devoted to protecting Afrikaner rights and heritage that received 0.89 percent of votes (139,465) in the 2004 election. END NOTE) PRETORIA 00003670 002.2 OF 002 ——- COMMENT ——- 6. (C) The DA obviously realizes that it cannot survive, or at a minimum be influential, as long as it is viewed as an all-white party. It may, however, be underestimating the uphill battle it has in stealing voters away from the ANC. The DA’s tactical maneuvers like broadening and strengthening party institutions to seek and absorb new members are legitimate, but will not bear fruit unless they can seek and convince voters that DA membership offers greater benefits than ANC membership. The DA needs a broad platform that resonates with black voters, and most importantly, the ability to convince voters they can implement it. Zille’s recent anti-drug crusade in the Cape Flats (reftel) — more specifically her willingness to march side-by-side with community members to advance a cause that is important to them — is a step in the right direction, but is unlikely alone to translate into nation-wide appeal. Teitelbaum

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07PRETORIA3670_a.html

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https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07PRETORIA3670_a.html

PRETORIA 00003670 001.2 OF 002 Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Catherine Kay. Reasons 1.4(b ) and (d). 1. (C) SUMMARY. Paul Boughey, Chief of Staff in the Office of the Leader of the Opposition, described to PolOffs on 26 September the Democratic Alliance’s (DA) goals leading up to South Africa’s national parliamentary elections in 2009: counter the party’s whites-only image, modernize party structures, and win control of the Western Cape. While Boughey has no illusions that the DA could overtake the ANC in 2009, he and his party, under the leadership of Helen Zille, appear to be preparing for what they believe will be the eventual end of the ANC’s overwhelming dominance. END SUMMARY. ———————————- COUNTERING THEIR WHITES-ONLY IMAGE ———————————- 2. (C) On 26 September, Paul Boughey, Chief of Staff in the Office of the Leader of the Opposition, talked to PolOffs about the DA’s strategy over the next 18 months to strengthen their position going into the country’s national parliamentary elections in 2009. Boughey admitted that the DA’s biggest challenge is transforming its image as a “whites-only party,” despite the fact that Boughey says most of their ground support is actually coloured. According to Boughey, the DA received 2.5 percent of the black vote in the 2004 parliamentary elections. While not significant, Boughey argued that if they could double that figure, they would gain four or five extra seats in the 400-seat National Assembly. In order to attract black voters, the DA intends to capitalize on disillusionment among blacks and youth by telling them that “the ANC only cares about a few black people, whereas we care about everyone and their issues.” The DA is also committed to placing more blacks into leadership positions. Even Boughey admitted that today, blacks hold only a handful of DA leadership positions and as party of their image makeover, they know they will need more black leaders. 3. (C) The DA has done its homework and feels it has “great potential” in Limpopo, northeast KwaZulu-Natal, and Gauteng. Though Boughey refused to elaborate on details, he said their research has shown that in these areas, the ANC is the majority’s first choice and the DA comes in second “if conditions were right.” The DA hopes to capitalize on this second-best rating by attracting not only new black voters but halting Indians from their continual slide away from the DA, according to Boughey. ————————— BUILDING PARTY INSTITUTIONS ————————— 4. (C) The DA is also planning on setting up “genuine, modern party structures.” Boughey said they would focus in on those geographic areas with the most potential for growth since their funding is limited. Boughey intimated that their current political architecture is unevenly developed, funded, and active. They are also in the process of developing a “leadership academy” for younger leaders, especially blacks aged 18-35 years old. ————————— WIN CONTROL OF WESTERN CAPE ————————— 5. (C) The DA is also intent on winning control of the Western Cape province in 2009, which Boughey believes is a strong possibility. Boughey said the DA won 45 percent of the vote in the 2006 municipal elections. Building on their experience governing Cape Town municipality through a multi-party coalition, Boughey said the DA will also govern the province through a coalition if they have to, but prefer to win outright. If they had to build a coalition, they would choose to work with the Independent Democrats, the United Democratic Movement, or the Pan African Congress. Boughey said without irony they have no interest in working with “stupid parties like the Freedom Front Plus, which should be eliminated since they only take our potential members away.” (NOTE: The Freedom Front Plus is a conservative party devoted to protecting Afrikaner rights and heritage that received 0.89 percent of votes (139,465) in the 2004 election. END NOTE) PRETORIA 00003670 002.2 OF 002 ——- COMMENT ——- 6. (C) The DA obviously realizes that it cannot survive, or at a minimum be influential, as long as it is viewed as an all-white party. It may, however, be underestimating the uphill battle it has in stealing voters away from the ANC. The DA’s tactical maneuvers like broadening and strengthening party institutions to seek and absorb new members are legitimate, but will not bear fruit unless they can seek and convince voters that DA membership offers greater benefits than ANC membership. The DA needs a broad platform that resonates with black voters, and most importantly, the ability to convince voters they can implement it. Zille’s recent anti-drug crusade in the Cape Flats (reftel) — more specifically her willingness to march side-by-side with community members to advance a cause that is important to them — is a step in the right direction, but is unlikely alone to translate into nation-wide appeal. Teitelbaum

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